Thank you Donnypee for setting the record straight of the history re KWG/Cliffs. I do not understand why some on this site feel it is necessary to take swipes at KWG on a continual basis. This certainly does not happen on the KWG site, The kwg site (most of us) wishes NOT and all the ROF Companies much success with their projects. We are all in this together and "to beggar thy neighbour" and try to denigrate them for whatever reason, does not accomplish much. Remember, "divided we fall, etc." I wish Very much success to NOT and KWG and all the rest of the ROF Companies. We are all in this together and with one purpose, to get a decent return on our investment dollar. Great week-end to all. rj