I have to disagree with you Jingles. I do not share your view that we in NA are more enightened. The US is now robbing everyone blind as with the Banks and Insurance scandals. Where are the protests? Where are the students? Where are the adults? Cowering in fear of losing their jobs. G.W. got elected by "Christian" voting support. No abortion. No evolution. I know Hugo is a nut and what is clearly visible to you is not always visible to those who do not want to see.

We in NA are going to have to answer to the excesses/arrogance of the past 30 years.

Long live the FED! P.U.