I Personally think they know whats there & it must be good if they are trying to retain some of it instead of acting like an auctioneer and just dumping more scattered crap into the box just to get a sale and get rid of it. Because As we all know (or think we know) they have alot of the Tesoro data in hand already and are just putting the final coats of wax on before they put it in the showroom. Optimistic, yes, otherwise i would not be heavilliy invested in this stock. Why would any of us, if there is that much concern on the part of the na sayers they should likely sell me their shares and sit on the bench and watch the game unfold.