achhhhhhh,,,,gac,,,,I think you put too much faith in the idea of stock manipulation and all these borrowed shares and such!!!!!!!!!!!!,,,where little fish swim so do big fish,,,the big fish think they are the biggest until a bigger fish swims in and so on and so on,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the market is so skewed not even the elite of savvy investors get much of an upper hand,,,,,,if any its the large institutional players that move the market,,,,,,,,,,,but so far no deep pocketed investing house has interest in us,,,,nor would a big player be interested in such a penny stock like us,,,,they seem to go where the ATR on a play is substantial and the volume matches their formula,,,,,,,,,,thats just life in the not so fast lane of investing my friend,,, and thats where we reside!!!,,,but this is what I feel I see as a minion minnow in this fish tank!!,,,,,,jmo