you gotta be kidding !!!!! ... all that stuff from portee and I was all, you know, like fascetious..... like not serious, like being silly maybe.... just a bit of humour even if its not enough to make anyone have a bellylaugh... if there was more laughing in the world there would be fewer wars !!! ... so don't take offence if I misunderstood and you were being fascetious also... and hey , lets not knock Christmas eh ? we can politically correct ourselves right into a life full of mistrust and no fun at all.... live and let live... the "let live" being a very important component.... oops. .. just fell off my soapbox....