Ttccrr, you have points worth pondering, but consider this: Swartz had a strangle hold on PTSC with the toxic financing. With their position they then got their guy on the BOD and had leverage. YET, DESPITE all this against PTSC, the strangle hold has been or is being eliminated while still remaining a viable company. You have to admit, it takes a strong company to overcome the hole our fat CFO put us in before we got rid of him. IF we werent in this strangle hold we would already be so high, but we are and we have to finish paying the consequences of our past before enjoying our future.