Thanks for the great info Spitfire and Lonestar2, I was wondering if Elmer mentioned the four year anniversary of the JV which is July 16 of this year (not sure if it was the exact date or the calander year)where Teck has to let the shareholders of Liard know if SC is "Econmical" and if it is deemed to be then that would trigger a Production Decision it's why we also have a third party to over see the work being done,Elmer confirmed this to me at PDAC after it was mentioned here by a few and it was a big reason why we kept a small portion of Liard.