As Iam has pointed out, Fred has referred to a 3 year lead up time from approval of patents to expected marketability. Well, the Nunchi patents were granted 3 years ago this coming October. Also, good point Plankton. Arc Soft can pussy foot around a little longer if they so choose, but the water gets alot deeper when the results of the Markman hearing become available(presuming that they are what we think/have been represented they are, if not, so be it) Most all have been waiting a long time. The, up until now paltry flash settlements, were necessary to get us to this point of testing Nunchi in the courts if need be. It is time to take a firm stand which Handal seems to have done, bravo.