you're on a roll. Excellent point "paragraph 3." Let's hope that EDIG is persuaded from not worring about "Embarasing" the a-holes stealing their tech, but to putting their names in the spotlight for the immense value from the press it will generate and getting EDIG known! What's this BS about walking on egg shells when it comes to these mamoth corporations ripping off little companies proprietary technology? Is there something wrong with this picture, or is it just me? (rhetorical). Oh, I remeber now, it's the "Golden rule," he with all the gold, Rules!!! So many things corrupt about Corporate American infrastructure, it's time for BIG CHANGES! mguru