Valid point. But as mentioned previously the AGM is less than a month away. Fluffy is not overly concerned about the current sp. Its August, the volumes have been extremely low. Fluffy owns a significant portion of the outstanding shares and is not concerned about low volume and low sp in the dog days of August. However I can assure you the lads are working. Former business associate who knows I invested in Zen and who is in the high tech sector contacted me to let me know that out of the blue someone from Zen contacted him regarding utilizing Graphene for plating the products he manufactures instead of Gold. So, things are taking place but names cannot be attached. Cheers, Fluffy the Cat