Rennie, the metalurgist Zen hired will likely be working out of SSG in Peterborough. Its obvious the LIB manufacturers require a supply that is high end, proven and consistent for their particular uses. A pilot plant built specifically to utilize Albany graphite designed for use for other than the LIB market, is in my opinion going to take place. I would suggest that we all pay a little more attention to what Musky over on SI has been writing. Cheers, Fluffy the Cat