I was on agoracom or better yet my IP address was under a different handle for the longest time. Never did try Investor village till you recommended it today. I had a slightly better time navigating it than SH. I would imagine 90% of the problem was me. I find agoracom soooooooo easy to navigate. Not many other features but that's ok. Nice to see you on the hub. And yeah, SH really ship the bed!