geez i get pumped just reading cedar.....i wish i had the time to go to these exposure events ...... one could post all day and still not get info that comes out of one of your posts.....and your read on management.... great......the old saying happy wife happy life applies to management as well....if they are positive i'm happy also....lets see i divorced the wife?...morgaged the children.....i wonder if i can get a second morgage on the kids??????????