Sinnerman..

They grow elderberries in Tulsa OK so you should be able to grow them in Kansas..

Go here and they have a great forum and all the states they grow elderberries..

Make great wine..

The lady in Oklahoma sells little plants so may be an in for you there..

Check it out..We grow lots in Canada..all provinces..

http://elderberries.ning.com/

Listed by state..

http://elderberries.ning.com/forum/categories/elderberry-locations-listed/listForCategory

Don't eat the red ones unless you cook them..They are poisonous unless cooked..

Bring some elderberrie wine to the bash in Vegas..By the time we are ready ..the wine should be ready about the same time..

Same as gold miming..From the time of first discovery til the pouring of the first gold bar...10 years minimum..

Mining and making your own wine from scratch would take about the same time..

KXL will be around a long time..So will I..

Portee