It has been talked about by the company and members of this forum numerous times. Why would companies make purchase orders beyond samples when the product is still going through qualification? I don't understand why people would try to imply that orders should happen before products are ready? Do the people here who continue to make these comments not  understand this? Or do people understand this but want to complain anyways. It just makes anyone reading this forum think that there is a problem when it is a matter of process.