One other point, which is more a clarification. I've posted many times that the awful share price over the last several months is an indication that more time is needed than, let's say, the consensus here has felt.

But even this abysmal share price cannot tell me the odds of the VCSEL, or tech in general, being optimized as envisioned by management and shareholders. Our management techies don't even know that (although they are in the best position of anyone to know), so no one else can, either. So, the share price doesn't offer insight on the "if," only the "when."

At this point in time, I read management as still being optimistic of optimization, are they as optimistic as they were a year ago, or at the THM, the AGM, or last month, I really don't have a sense of that.