Hi all. Just to through my two cents in here. There are investors and traders. JTP you said you are an investor and your money has been dead for two years. My understanding of those who invest have much longer timelines then those who trade. If I was expecting to play the ebbs and flows of this company, I would consider myself a trader not an investor. I am not adept at picking the entry and exit points to keep more then I would lose, so I invest rather then trade. I know people who are very good at trading and have increased their position handsomely. I tip my hat to them and their brass onions. That said, with all of the changes that have occurred with our little company, I have not seen any evidence that a viable, disruptive, mass produceable product will not emerge. I too have been worn down by time and low sp. I feel everyone's frustration and everybody has different tolerances. Buy, sell, hold as you wish. Like Rainer, I have managed to buy a little here and there as funds allow. I do not consider my money dead unless I was planning to trade. Since I do not plan to start selling until the first commercial product is into the market, I consider my money as sautéing. Long ago I was told there are many obstacles to this becoming a reality. I accepted that then and still understand that we are at risk of low-ball takeouts and many other developments. That said, I trust in our votes and the vision of management who will move us toward successfully developing the next paradigm shift. It takes time and some have said they have run out of that. I hope we can all hang on to witness the game changing, disruptive technology management has seen, emerge into the market. Then we can all say we were there in its infancy and shared in a very rare event. Take care. Regards Derekwpg