But all one need remember is that the vast majority of posters here are involved in the stock market first and foremost. THUS, ALL THE WHINING and COMPLAINING. What else would you expect? Many do do a very good job of contributing in one or more of the varied aspects of the business and also respecting the company of focus. Consequently, the the sometimes frequent referral to "Do your own DD" by many a poster when making claims. But not the Hustle Bunnies! Old Joe PS: Typing here in Monsoon June, Calgary???