I believe ARM was left out of the PR because he could not make the same statement if including the 584. They didn't do as well on the 584 IMHO. But interesting that he chose 'phrase' as opposed to 'term.' I believe if it is proportional that would be a term not a phrase, and while interpetation may differ, it sure doesn't sound highly technical. On the other hand 'does not direcltly rely" is a phrase and is probably highly technical in nature. But whatever it is, why mention it if it has a negative connotation? Hmmmm Opty