Agree MD. With the shares being slowly brought to the .11 range does that mean that the downward pressure has begun? There are a tremendous number of shares , I think over 1.5 Mil on Alpha alone at .12 offered, it might signify the projected attempt to bring the price down has started. We stayed at .115 to .12 for quite a considerable time and just the past 2 days have seen .11 poking it's head on the bid so maybe the games have begun. You are right, patience is required and we are in a no lose situation at the end of the day. We are still a thorn in the side of Cliffs and I am sure they have no intention of sharing the spoils of Big Daddy with us unless we are Cliffs shareholders. rj