makin , "No one new wants to invest....". I just got smacked for asking where any funding will come from without massive dilution (I note that nobody answered). EZ, I was actually being tongue in cheek about Fung being some great pal of Chavez. What a pile of nonsense that absolutely has to be or we'd be mining already. Barry, thanks for defending me on this day of mourning for you now that it's certain that Manny and Ortiz were dopers. Seriously, I've never understood the pouncing on those who dare to ask anything. Listen to all opinions and make up your own mind. Trash me, but I'm still here after all this time. Karl