golf, thanks for the reminders of the SCJV language.  None of it really sounds good for us as shareholders. Like mushrooms, "keep us in the dark and feed us s__t !" They are not going to put any language in that is forward looking, as they have to cover their deriere to avoid litigation. If the information I/we have been fed thru the years is accurate and specific to the truth, as I believe, we must wait until there is a production decision, even if it means years.  I only think teck wants SCJV so they can eventually start a mine with a partner who bought their 25% for what amounts to the cost of building a mine. Teck has a money tree (in my mind), and its just like money in the bank,in the ground. As a shareholder, I have kinda put the stock out of my mind, although I am constantly looking over my shoulder to see IF,  Copper Fox has moved up on the stock ticker. It is what it is and I can't do a damn thing about it but wait & see?