Holding up well today in another bad market, gut feeling is we're building up steam for a move upwards.  Hope I'm right.

Also I've been wondering about the $600M 10.25% notes with respect to the C$175M Term Loan B which part of the new funding will be used to retire.  I think the numbers have changed, but in essence what I'm getting at is that the 10.25% can't be all that bad if it was used to retire another loan.  Could be missing the boat completely, just my thoughts.