I have not given up on managment,and my beliefs in SLI have and will not change just because what I want has not happened (news) there is good reason,and the Havilah spin could have something to do with it. I read in the circular that the spin could effect sp as it willno longer be in the Sli portfolio.or the Amex.I trust Lori BETTER judgment! .My reasons for my go long additude is well stated in WOXOF post yesterday.( When it's so close) the answer is all things in time. Patience