Kemo, I never have viewed the off topic posts . But yesterday I did and your post about A BASHERS CONFESSION was most interesting. Whether it was fabricated, out dated, etc...I found it very informative and a good read for those of you that never frequent the off topic board................ And it particularly seems to apply to some of the discussions this morning about SH and what may be at work there. (and here at the most convenient times!).......... Please excuse me if a reference to your post has already been made)