Yes, Fred said they were disappointed in IPMetrics (didn't pan out?? I recall unless referring to something different.). I take it that e.Digital is no longer using IPMetrics. However, are you suggesting that we are still working with Microsoft? I would hope this is the case although Fred did not leave many clues as to this. He did say that Nunchi was now the monetizing priority. If we get through the Nunchi IPRs positively, then I think we could get many licenses for Nunchi in the future. Handal did say this was the big deal as there are approximately 15 years left on the patent portfolio.