all that these non disclousures did was give the ones that stole the patents an out so as not to be called thieves. Yet vthat is what they were. The paid a willing price for their annominity. If thats what we call justice then we need a more valued example of what justice really is. I don't fault you but certainly fault those who are doing the business. When I stated that it was not about Fred i meant that yes he needs to be paid but so do we who have supported the company need to go on a little further than just keeping him on the payrole. With all the money we have collected not one company was accused in that settlement of what they did. They in essence paid hush money and they continue to make money on edigs back. Thats not justice. If all we are interested in doing is paying Fred his money then we are not in it to win.