The problem has been that what ever we got as far as information was concerned was by the members here. Freds silence might be OK for some but for those of us that have been investors know a little more about how to deal with the people who trusted in the company. The reprt is devestating tp most and yet we find some who will take any little bit and and try to make it sound as a success. We need a change in direction and Fred needs to see that that silence is not golden.