I believe that we HAVE hired a company that has achieved success in IPMetrics and have to put some level of trust in Fred that he did his due diligence prior to hiring them. Whether a company is successful with one particular isolated case is not relevant. The other side of your example of never having won a case is--what if this certain patent sale was the only one of many that they could not accomplish? Too little information in general for it to matter. GLTAL