I believe that it is way too soon to be speculating that other companies are avoiding, going around, by passing, or are going anywhere without Nunchi. The initial base patents were granted on Nov. 6th--less than 90 days ago. I would speculate that they are busy working on several fronts and I, as all here, hope they are successful. Ultimately,(at the end of the day is so overused) time will tell as to Fred's and Edig's degree of success with Nunchi but it is too early to tell.