Thats why I have stated from the beginning that if we have the patents and the courts say we do, and if we have patents to Nunchi and the Patent office says we do . Then there is no problem except tat we go after those that infringed and do so with blood in our eyes. The question posed is "Teach" , How better to teach someone than to have him pay an amount that he can't afford. Let them bleed. Thats the lesson of infringment. If we go about it like pansythen you can expect these to continue to ionfring because we will not look to hurt them in the end. That will mean disaster for us. Fred are you awake. Go for the jugular.