Fred does not want to say or promise too much probably because some attorney told him to not say anything that anyone could construe as future promises that were then not delivered on and could be the subject of a law suit. From the boys at the SHM Fred even gets nervous when Alan speaks in too glowing of terms and with enthusiasm. It looks like to me that he is playing the CYA game and will continue to collect his annuity for as long as he can. Here is one for our board--If Fred left tomorrow do you think that we could replace him with someone more skilled if we had $180,000/year to offer?