"One great thing about a message board is that we can all convince ourselves that what is happening is exactly what we want..."
I don't get the impression that anyone is "convinced" of anything, just discussion based on experience, current affairs and maybe gut feel. The truth will unwind before us eventually. I for one appreciate both sides but for prolonged discussion as for life I prefer to "focus" on the positive "possibilities"...the reason I'm invested in the first place.
Coyote