Some one spoke of watching paint dry. Interestingly enough that is what I have been doing this am. Of course I used a water based paint and in this nice LA weather I didn`t have to wait/watch long. I wish that Fred and EDIG were water based. LOL. Thanks John for your ideas about Fred`s efforts these days. I wonder if anyone in Poway or San Diego has seen him somewhere. Wonder if he`s been in Springville as of late. Srini Rajam has been almost everywhere according to Google. And Russ and Web get coverage too. But poor or clever Fred just goes unnoticed, though I did see him at all the shareholders meetings. I wonder if he has yet to figure out how to work the 1000?