Sounds to me like he is saying that they will give guidance around the time they file the 10K, which doesn`t have to be filed until May 31st (60 days), or possibly at the SHM, which may be around May 31st. Maybe they decided not to give the guidance they indicated to John and Larry in March or April. Never know, maybe there`s so much business, they can`t count it all right now. Let`s hope so.