Thanks Tuttava. By the way anyone know what happened to JTDIII. He really got to the meat of things when questioning Robert. I stood right beside the two of them and learned a lot. Poor Robert`s back was getting sore after about an hour of serious questions from JTDIII. I got too tired to stand and gave up about 10 minutes after that first hour. Hey, don`t be too concerned about LL. He seems like the serious type while I am the creative type. I`d bet we are way apart on the Myers Briggs personality scale. I live in Southern California and most of the country just doesn`t get us anyway because lots of us are so far ahead of many of the rest of the country.... one of the reason I got into EDIG years ago. It`s one thing that ties us all together like it or not. By the way, I wonder about where many on this board would place. There is no right or wrong, just types and how they relate. Any other Jungian scholars out there? I wonder where Fred, Robert and Atul would rank on the scale? If you don`t know Myers Briggs you can google it. It`s my belief that there is a ton of info there about lots of things, even things Robert or others won`t divulge.