I didn't say that DYA "couldn't" do anything cubbs, I was asking what your thoughts were because I couldn't figure what you were getting at.  I totally agree with you that this stock should be in the hands of a broker. I've been wondering why it's not, what better way to get it on the radar screen.   Has anyone asked management that question?     I was also wondering what triggered the recent action to move the stock to a tier 2 level, and how do they get back to a tier 1?     I'm probably a newcomer in your books cubbs, I've been a shareholder   for about a year now.  I can sense you are a long timer.  I haven't commented on any history beyond my entry as I'm not qualified or informed however I am aware that it's been a bumpy ride.  Trust me, I know the feeling.....I have owned enough equities that I've  bought at the top and watched them slide into the pit.  I will add that a few of them eventually took off and became the best investments I ever made.  I hope for your sake and all the other guys that bought in at higher levels that DYA will be one of those.