Your DIWYS don't get you anywhere near to cover your capital loss, unless you hold forever and they are kept up. I believe, we are just plain stupid to listen and act on " promotion " ! We, as a group ( very small now ), did not do any of our own DD as is always propagated. So, we are out of some $$$. Let's move on to something more exciting than " big time DIWYS " of some promotional money makers for the insiders and promoters ( underwriters ). After KXL/ PDG/AR and some minor others, I am out of exploration, money grabbing, option playing, new issues getting rich schemes, which seem to be set up just for themselves. Wish I would have been that smart years ago. At least Portee is successful, according to his reports.