Steak,go to SI and look at the pay out chart from Turkeysfartrule for Zen management between 2016 to present.It will make you weep.Apparently,all the money raised only went to a few people,s pockets  and some of them never had to do a day,s work other than sitting at board meetings.No wonder we never got anything done and the mine never got going.AE wants to carry on with this for years to come while we had been screwed big time.Did they pocket the grant moneys  as well?We need to kick them out for good.