Could not agree more.  I cringe every time ZEN comes out with a NR starting with " we are initiating a project".  What happended to Balllard or Larisplast or the other 40 NDA projects?  Do you notice that we get all the test results from these two except the end results.  What happened?  ZEN needs a huge shake up in management.  Down our stock price goes. No wonder Ken left.