I feel your frustration. I don't think ZEN by itself can make it to 2020ish. They would need some deep pocket partner or up front money for their Graphite in order to mine. I think they are on the right path trying to find the best fit for their one of a kind unique graphite and letting others mine and sell the graphite. And besides, most of us beaten up ZEN stockholders don't want to wait that long. Com'on AE and Crew, "Get r Done".