Fair to say, in your opinion. Nothing is negative in the realm of ZEN for you. Take a realistic look, and it might be different. This could well lead to an improved flow sheet, and on to bulk scale. But what if improvements aren't forthcoming? For 3 years they've been working on it. Now a new guy is going to work wonders? Maybe. But again, from the outside, it's a show me situation. For the share holders, it's a want to believe situation. The view from the non-partisan side is not as cut and dried as you imply.