OK so one of the big nobs removed pangea's original post, which was a piece of idiotspeak.

i think it would have been better to leave it up with ultimatum warnings from lots of people, then shut down pan's entire ID if he would post a serious lie again.

i say this because there are now fairly extreme pumps on this board - more than one, and certainly more than there were 6 months ago - and they are getting away with the whole enchilada. nobody questions them even when they are preposterous.

so is a hired pumpndumper any worse than a basher ??