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I agree wloke,HBM is trading at $4.88,unreal,it's down from $27+ and fnx is $5.18 down from a high of $39+.So we have a new 52 week low at .25cents.Copper has tanked once again and they are talking of further lower prices coming.It doesn't bode well for any copper mines or any commodities period.As you said,patience.