They are talking revenues. And maybe they will make more money than with Kodak as a partner? Hard to know what will happen. Some may sell and some may see a buying opportunity here. They still have money and assets at Kodak. And now they have Atml assets. I heard Jeff say that they spent over $15 million in Capx at Kodak...? Is that right?

Disappointed that Kodak venture did not work out. This was a blindsight. Who knows what will happen. Could very well reverse.