Ya I forgot about the co-branding mention, but wasn't that per the 'diamond-guard,' i'll have listen again... plus the questioneer interupted with Atmel per copper-mesh i believe...

Our guy stated copper and silver when ask about compitition and that's what EK just sponsored - fwiw

gona bea long month n a half

puttn few hundred into EK also just-n-case.

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