Any insight into when in 2016 Gary Savage sees this 8 year cycle low occurring? Also, Charles Nenner, another cycles man, said gold was bottoming in July of last year, and Martin Armstrong thinks it will happen this fall. Aren't these guys looking at same historical information? I'm confused. I hadn't heard the 2016 estimate until recently, and that is a bit discouraging. It seems as though expectations for a turnaround keep getting pushed further and further out.