Hansix: 1) Your second and third premises I agree with. 2) But if I thought the markets really were forward looking and priced themselves accordingly (Premise 1), I would be desperate about TDC's chances as the absurdity of low SP coexists with bright shining prospects. To be optimistic about TDC requires belief that markets are in fact completely wacked, bizarre and out to lunch.

Further, to argue both that the government is the biggest influence on markets (Premise 2) and that they are free and rational at the same time (which underlies Premise 1 I think) seems a contradiction. In any case, I wish all of us the best, I enjoy your comments, I have over 560,000 shares now, still accumulating at times as finances allow, and I am hoping that the future becomes much brighter for all of us, including me and my family.

Re "checkmate?". Have you given up so easily? :) Ike