watch_the_sky, Thanks for the inside data update. I had thought Webb owned a bit more than was listed, as I had been giving a figure of over 1.5M shares. Perhaps that includes what Mrs. Webb owns. It's a shame we can't see what Dr. Black holds unless we consider Williams Creek's 10,000,000 shares as his proxy. And, although Sonnenreich has nearly double the number of shares of Webb's, he paid a lot less for them. Perhaps one could say Michael has "less skin in the game", as he, unlike Webb, got his shares "on the cheap". Cheers, Baires