it depends on what the market does, to be honest there is such good value out there for companies on the verge of production, that the risk reward favours companies that will have cashflow in the next year, regardless of any upturn from here there is going to be a Berlin wall of worry to climb for investors so tyhee maybe a laggard in the beginning but once the market starts rerating gold shares and if Webb is as good as he seems their is no reason that the market should not rerate Tyhee as well.